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News / Re: New note from Ben
« on: July 12, 2003, 03:34:16 PM »
No worries, Tagg.

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News / New note from Ben
« on: July 11, 2003, 10:36:43 PM »
Mr. Cell posted this in the EP thread (thanks, man!), but I wanted to make sure no one missed this.

Go to www.benfolds.com and read the shit now. More details on the EPs.  Details you may very well like.

Or not.  Suit yourself.

~JBJ,  ;)

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News / Re: EP RELEASED VIA WEB!
« on: July 23, 2003, 12:53:02 AM »
Woo! Thanks to Annie mine is in the mail!  I haven't listened to the samples yet... just got back online after an extended hiatus (somebody got married! not me, though.) and I have to finish my 3 hour dose of evil reality tv before I can.  But woooo!

PS - I highly recommend the new show, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: August 13, 2003, 03:58:53 AM »
From a new article:

Folds next EP release currently titled "Sunny 16,'' is due out in September, with an untitled third EP due out in November. He said a full studio album, perhaps made up mostly of EP tracks, could see the light of day next year. However, the freedom that comes from the inconspicuous EP approach could be his modus operandi for the near future.

I propose we just take it how we can get it.  :)

There's some good stuff in this article, mostly Ben going on about why EPs are better for him than albums right now: http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/news/stories/20030812/localnews/45381.html





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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 17, 2003, 03:45:38 AM »

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I'm confused as to whether or not "New Song Sing Along" (did I make up that title or is that how it's listed on a playlist somewhere?) from La Zona Rosa is one of these songs for sure. Anyone know, or know what the real name of that song will be?


I don't think we know for sure, but there is speculation.  Let me state the case:

- Ben played one verse of the song from La Zona Rosa at the WPI show this spring.  We know it's the same song because he had the crowd do the same background lyrics. The lyrics (for the most part, I'm not listening at the moment):

If you want to be free then I want you to be
You're not mine anymore, you're public property
You're a slave to these people that don't even know you
They (You?) think they adore you
They do, but they throw you away
You're... (Something I can't quite understand.. a star?)
Give the people what they want
You've got to give the people what they want (chorus)


- On the 2nd EP, there is a song called: You've Got to Learn to Live with what you are.  The syllables match up perfectly, so it's probably the same song.  Either the chorus varies or he changed the lyrics?  There's also one called Rockstar, which would fit with the apparent theme, but I'm leaning towards the syllabic thing.
- Also on the 2nd EP is another song he played at the WPI show (They Give No f*ck), which makes it even more likely that one of the other songs is the La Zona Rosa song.

:)

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 16, 2003, 02:51:12 AM »

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i'm a little bit curious as to what these songs are going to sound like.  have you guys heard them yet?  this whole william shatner deal...does that mean the new EPs are gonna be ahem like Fear of Pop, or is Shatner's thing his own?  


I guess you could say many of us have heard many of them?  On the first EP, one is a cover of a song by The Cure, two - Protection and Dog - are newly recorded versions of old songs from Ben's 1990 demo (I think they were old songs then!).  Great songs that I'm excited to hear again, especially since the quality of the tape -> digital is not that great.  (Do I sound like I know what I'm talking about? I don't.)  "Give Judy My Notice" is a new song that Ben played live recently... and there's a live version online.  (See General board.)  It's very, very pretty.  "Wandering" is a newly recorded, full version of the snippet of a song from the movie 100 Girls (Darren wrote the chorus, which is the part in the movie).  There's a bootlegged copy from the movie with all 10 seconds of music with cheesy dialog.  Personally, I'm very excited to hear this whole song.

As for the second EP, it seems like the three songs he played this spring (I think it was the WPI show?) are on it.  He only played a verse or two of each, and one didn't have any words.  (Gotta love how Ben actually sings, "Aint got no words, y'all.")  One is the song he had the crowd do background vocals for in Austin (before it was a song)... I don't know if you ever heard that?

The Shatner thing is Shatner's own thing, and it doesn't seem like the EPs will show any signs of FOP-ness.

I gotta say it, I CAN'T WAIT.  Can you tell?

Christina, if you go to the General board and click on the Newport show thread... that show has Dog and Judy.  The same site also has the old versions of Protection and "My Dog."  

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 11, 2003, 10:29:47 PM »
Ok, Judy rocks, we know that.  And Protection and My Dog, yes way cool, I knew that.

BUT... WANDERING!!!!! f'in wandering, the song fragment from 100 Girls...

I should really read the whole message before I hit "Post" lest I find myself shocked again.

I'm am wondering if "you've got to learn to live with what you are" represents new lyrics for "you've got to give the people what they want."  Hmmmmmnnnn.  

Ok, I was excited before, but... shit, just go read the message.

~JBJ, all  ;D

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 11, 2003, 10:24:45 PM »
Mr Cell, you rock my world. Thanks for that.

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 09, 2003, 02:11:48 AM »
Let's not be all vague like last time.  2 what?

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 07, 2003, 11:09:56 PM »
It's unclear.

Folds hints that this could be his future modus operandi: recording a track, offering it on the Web and eventually piecing an album together as a "matter of formality." However, the North Carolina native and current Australian resident (he also lives in Nashville) hasn't completely shut the door on creative marketing. He discloses that the new track "Give Judy My Notice," which appears on "Speed Graphic" sans the string section in which it was originally recorded, could turn up in its original form on a future album.

"When it comes time to fulfill my contractual obligation, and put things into an album and put them out, then what the record company does for me is makes me look important," says Folds. "Probably get on MTV a couple of times, [in a] couple of major publications and people who come to the show will think I'm famous. And it works. But I think the institution of the album may be going away. That's my gut feeling. I feel that it is more about songs and the album is a formality that packages things so that you can hype them real big and I'm just not very hype-able. We've tried that a couple of times and it is just not very effective."


Future modis operandi, or effective now? It does sound like the album could be pieced from the EPs... but we'll have to wait and hear more.  It seems like some of the stuff that's gonna be on the EPs is not stuff he would put on an album.  At this point my best guess is that the whole album will not be repeats, nor will it be completely new. Maybe we need a new over-under game.

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 04, 2003, 11:37:14 PM »
Last we heard before this news the album was coming out early 2004.  Now this article still has an album coming out early 2004.  Where's the problem, exactly?

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News / Re: Ben To Release 3 New EPs!!!
« on: July 04, 2003, 03:04:39 AM »
Whoa! I just heard about this a few minutes ago!!  Well, I heard about the 3 EPs last night, but it didn't seem real to me until I read the article.

JULY 22ND.

*faints*

I think this is win-win.  I mean, as a fan, I just want new music, I don't care what form it's in or how it is presented to the public.  If Ben needs to work five songs at a time, that's just fine with me!

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News / Re: What does this mean?
« on: July 24, 2003, 01:12:13 AM »
Yeah, I don't know that I have anything of value to add, though I'm interested in the questions.

Let me give it a shot with my vague and uninformed (and I stress that) answers:

1) Lower numbers, higher return per CD
2) No idea.  I'm sure Ben is getting a much higher cut than usual.
3) No idea, but I do tend to think things might go this way for indie artists.

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