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Transcription / Re: Chords?
« on: April 29, 2002, 02:05:49 AM »
Grey, you sound like a jazz pianist. hmmmmm....I have a question for you too then. I know my chords, but only in root position (or similar inversions with the root in the left hand.) Do you know how to voice jazz chords?

Well, I'm not that great at it, but I can share the techniques that I've used to come up with some different voicings.

Getting out of the root position is definitely the key (so to speak).  Since you already know all the chord qualities, you just need to start practicing inverting.  If you play the chord in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd inversion, it will usually sound better than the root position chord.  

To make that bass a bit more interesting (i.e. not in the root position) you can add the 9th (2nd) and dump the root.  The bassist would be taking care of it anyhow :)  Also, since you don't really need the fifth (unless it is a flat or sharp 5), so you can substitute the 13th (6th).  

You can also try and experiment around with true chord inversions (where you change the bass note - like playing C major triad with an E in the bass) to find interesting chord voicings, and then progress to, well, chord progressions.  There are a lot of books out there that can help with that.  

The best way to go from one chord to another is through smooth leading, where you try to change the chords with as little right hand motion.  It takes practice, but once you get the hang of it, you'll really start to have some fun.

Good luck!


Transcription / Re: Chords?
« on: April 26, 2002, 04:20:28 AM »
A lot of pianists (especially piano bar types, the sort of people that would be required to know many songs at the drop of a hat) play using their knowledge of chords.  You can either build an accompaniment around the melody using chords in both hands, or play the melody line in the right hand and the chords on the left.  That is the simple, straightforward "fake" technique.

The chords you would use depend primarily on the key of the song itself.  For example, "Losing Lisa" is in the key of G, thus you'd play chords based in the G Major scale.  

Piano isn't usually taught with a basis in chords unless you're studying rock or jazz specifically.  Conversely, guitar is almost always taught this way.  I think if more people were taught from a chords perspective, there would be a lot more kids who'd stick with piano :)  Learning to improvise is half the fun!

Anyway, I'll quit rambling now.  If you're interested in learning more about chord theory, I'd recommend this page.  Some of the explanation pertains to guitars, but the theory remains the same.


Transcription / Re: "Wandering" ?
« on: June 08, 2002, 03:12:48 PM »
lol, I'll pay someone to record it themselves and put it online just so I can hear it without that goshawful "dangler" comment anymore.  :P


Transcription / Re: guitar tabs
« on: June 23, 2002, 12:16:47 PM »
hi batey!  welcome  ;D

check the thread below this one ("summer b") for a link!


Transcription / Re: Musicians Here
« on: February 11, 2002, 02:06:13 PM »
LOL, if I didn't know to what JBJ was referring, I would indeed need sleep.  I was merely referring to the semi, um, well ok fine.  It was just funny the way she described it <g>


Transcription / Re: Musicians Here
« on: February 10, 2002, 05:20:26 AM »
"Thoaty groan sound"?   ;D

~g, it's late; sue me.

Transcription / Re: Musicians Here
« on: February 09, 2002, 07:55:39 AM »
TIB, any post with a pseudo-Troy quote is aces by me.  

~g, who, incidentally, REALLY (really really) loves the "Dr. Zaius" song from the Planet of the Apes  musical.  

"Oooh!  Help me Dr. Zaius."

Transcription / Re: Musicians Here
« on: February 07, 2002, 05:43:38 PM »
I wish I knew a Groundskeeper Willie.   ;D

~g, who used to post substantively <g>  Wait, let's see...I played the violin, flute, and the drums.  Oh, and an instrument with 88 keys.

Transcription / Re: All your lyrics needs at this site...
« on: June 21, 2002, 09:30:56 PM »
Woo!  Love it!!!


Transcription / Re: drum/guitar?
« on: January 15, 2002, 06:33:29 PM »
Here is a good start for you, at Frank's site.

A quick search at should produce some good results as well!

Good luck :)


Transcription / Re: Learning Piano
« on: August 12, 2003, 09:56:32 AM »
If you want to learn the chord method, there are some good books at places like Borders and the like; I haven't bought the program myself so I can't vouch for it personally, but a friend of mine who was a guitarist first (and knows from chords) swears by this guy:

who teaches a chord-based method.  You might give that a try!

Ben's Old Five / Re: It's going to be a good day
« on: March 06, 2002, 05:00:03 AM »
Yeah, I could get high on...this board?  <g>

~g, not sure who "you" should be...if that makes ANY sense whatsoever

Ben's Old Five / Re: It's going to be a good day
« on: March 05, 2002, 03:10:14 PM »
Nah, you don't have to drink to have fun.  Hell, I rarely drink and I have a fairly decent existence.

But you know, that whole "I can walk into this place I never could before and buy drinks" thing is novel for the recently-minted legal drinker ;)

~g, not a drunk!  Really!

Ben's Old Five / Re: It's going to be a good day
« on: March 05, 2002, 10:09:56 AM »
HAHAHA, Em!  <g>  I remember two years ago being new to the drinking scene.  I hardly ever drank before I was 21, but then suddenly, there I was.  I have really embarrassing pictures with my cheeks all flushed and my eyes all droopy, with 7 or 10 empty glasses all gathered around me.  Very flattering, I say.  Oh well, it was fun :)

~g, recovering recreational drinkaholic

Ben's Old Five / Re: elvin bishop...
« on: April 07, 2002, 11:07:55 PM »
How did I know that was coming?   ::)

~g, who briefly considered adding, "No, not THAT armchair..." to the post <g>

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