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Title: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: benjaminscottfolds on September 01, 2008, 07:25:15 PM
I know i slacked on the caps for a bit - a relapse.  I will work on the paragraph structure as well.  But let me tell you that I'm somebody who passed music theory and ear training with D's.  So I'm not always with the program on form.  I knew the material in my own way but I just didn't do shit like put the do re me in my sightsinging or put the time signature.  I should have.

You might have read it, but I had a back and forth with the .org that turned into an interesting dialogue.  They're not so bad.  I suggest we all light candles at midnight, hold hands and sing songs of hope and peace together.  After having signed up a screen name over there and over here, I'm going back into remission soon.  I'll leave you all alone.  But first a blog with length and girth of mind numbing proportions!

I'll just speak some about the album in a way that I'm not going to be able to articulate in the wider press.  The album will probably be taken a dozen ways.. well, probably two ways.  Literally and not.  I can't complain if people go the literal route.  I have courted that in this record and will have to face the music when its taken on face value, from the songs to the artwork.

The artwork is of the movie stills variety.  Its playing on the same character that nobody can possibly feel sorry for;  the poor rich guy who doesn't have to pay in coffee shops.  

We borrowed a hollywood style mansion for a day and shot in every room.  I just sat and made the same sad face in each shot while Jared and Sam were paid as butler and car driver to hang out with me and make sure I wasn't going to kill myself.  Its really silly.  But the idea was to put one line quotes from the songs, rather out of context to set each photograph off in some way.  Although my favorite line/photograph combination ended up being a blank black page that just says "its just a thought but where did it come from".  Last page.  Anyway, you get the idea - sad rich man, lonely in his mansion, eating his TV dinner, putting up his golf clubs and occasionally trying some eastern ways of life.  This is supposed to be me, but of course my own 1800 square foot tudor house with kiddie stuff strewn and stacks of books with no shelves wouldn't have quite suited our purposes.  The British packaging style would have been to stay in character for the whole package, but we're American and so we have to show the behind the scenes too just to show you I'm real - thus the smiling candid black and white in studio shots in the center of the artwork.

The concept grew out of the songs like Free Coffee, The Frown Song, Dr Yang.  I see a lot of frowning people who don't seem to be very grateful for what they have.  They've always been around but it seems like they're coming into vogue.  They're in magazines ,ads, and especially present in the new age/ yoga sector.  That doesn't mean everyone who has money or who goes to spas is like this - I'm just amazed that there's some kind of marketing power in their poutiness (izzat a werd?).  I used to wait tables for people like that, but I feel they got worse or proliferated somehow recently.  I honestly don't think they're as sad as they appear.  I think its just in style, like being bored was in style for a while.  Anyway, this is what was on my mind when I was writing those songs.  I just wondered if those people couldn't just remember a few years ago when they were the servants... it seems to be the new rich that are the mean ones.  I'm finished thinking about that now though.  haha.  I got it out of my system and now its on a record.

Free Coffee was also an attempt to sum up how fast my life has flown by.  BFF literally took days off of work to play a few gigs in 1994 which turned into more gigs which turned into tours and albums and promotion... then one day (years later) we came home for a few weeks.  When I came back I had all this shit I didn't have before.  I wanted to make that unfold in one absurd verse.  I still have that backback although its on its last leg.  People treated me differently but I felt the same.  I was always happy to get nice treatment.  But getting free shit when you're successful drives home the snowballing value added benefits of capitalism huh?  I don't mind that I didn't get it before, or that I get it now.  I just think its funny to say and I've never quite heard it in a song.  Its very ugly to hear someone say they're rich unless its a rap record... its still ugly I guess.

Speaking of ugly - Hiroshima.  For anyone that just can't deal with the literal tone of it and its repetitiveness its really about public failure .  The literalness and the repetition is part of it.  Its ugly to say you're rich and its just as ugly to sing your woes moment to moment about being famous and falling off a stage.  But public humiliation is a fascination in our society whether its a governor with a call girl or a president falling down stairs.  I had no interest in weaving those messages in like you would in a term paper (which works for some songs) nor did I have interest in complicating the chords or melody.  All those things I tried sounded too brainy for me.  I didn't want people to think I was talking ABOUT those things - to speak from a perpective of awareness.  I wanted to BE those things.  That's uglier.  They're watching me fall (Big deal assh*le!)   And in case anyone is interested in what's in my head, I've got x-rays but that's about as much as I'll ever let you in on.  The other sub-angle intended with the lyric is the suggestion that I might have gotten brain damage which one could speculate brings about some of where the hero finds himself as the album unfolds.

But I wasn't into ugly for the whole album - I was just enjoying the effect of it.  I remember when I would catch all kinds of shit for writing words like "stupid" into a song called Emaline.
People didn't do that so often and I've always liked pushing clunky lyrical ideas where they're not musically welcome.  "Maybe he's been seriously hurt" in Annie Waits caused a long long argument where the producer wanted me to take out syllables.  The diaper line will put off quite a few listeners but that's the kind of stuff that comes across your field of vision and into your head while you're in the middle of life.  Sometimes its a good effect and sometimes not.  I think I'll let time decide about some of these.  They're intentional, and they're intentionally not flattering.  Who knows.  You just have to do whatever it is that floats your boat.

Takes a deep breath and finishes a post in part two (8000 characters were exceeded...)

Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: benjaminscottfolds on September 01, 2008, 07:26:18 PM
anyway, where was I...

There's only one other song I feel I should explain for the moment, and tell how it came to be.

Kylie From Connecticut. 
I asked Nick Hornby, the novelist, if he would want to take a crack at the lyrics for the music to this song.  It had no title or words, just me singing la la's.  I was stuck.  I sent him an mp3 to see what he'd come up with, although I knew that was a very difficult way to write - music first puts the lyricist in a box to begin with although that's the way I've always written.  I love Nick's writing and he's game to write lyrics every once in a while.  Lucky me.  He didn't disappoint.  He wrote this great set of lyrics but it just didn't sit in the song musically without my revising them and I'm sorry, I'm not revising a syllable of that man's work - it was perfect on its own but just wasn't a match for that song - it was a syllable thing. 

I suggested that maybe the chorus should have proper consonance.  I suggested it sound something like "Kylie is Calling from Connecticut".  His lyrics were about the Elvis comeback TV show and a young lady you can see who was immortalized, who's now older.  It was really cool.  Anyway, once the dummy words Kylie from Connecticut came out of my mouth, and entire scene and lyrics came spewing forth so I finished the song myself and  I wrote a completely new other song to the lyrics about the comeback show which we I'll record when I have any time at all. 

What I visualized when saying the words "Kylie is calling from Connecticut" was an older woman who'd stuck her marriage out through thick and thin, 1950's style.  Dedication and perseverance. She has always suspected her husband had affairs but she's also always said that she just didn't want to know.  This is the way an older generation dealt and Its a viable way to deal.  But one day, probably in her mid 60's she finds a slip of paper on her husband's desk, written by his secretary that says "Kylie called from Ct.  She says you've got the number".  So her husband is out of town for the weekend and as she's in bed alone, as she often is, her imagination gets the best of her.  But she begins to realize that her imagination and her suspicions that are eating her up are because in truth she hasn't been in love with her husband for so long that she's not sure she can recall a time when she was.  In fact, as the song says, her heart belongs to a man she had an affair with years ago, who she would have spent her life with but for the fact that she had young children.  And so as she looks through the closet, her memories, things she's never told anyone, she turns out the lights and goes to sleep.  Of course that means she dies in first semester of english lit.  I won't write a sequel of her husband and Kylie in his convertible rolling in Los Vegas. 

Okay, I've typed more than anyone is going to want to read.  I type about as fast as I talk although these f*cking caps are slowing me down a bit!

Tomorrow RollingStone.com is going to announce what I'm still not allowed to until they say it first.  I'm going to bed.  And thus concludes my career as a blogman. 

Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Nudist on September 01, 2008, 07:32:13 PM
Wow, awesome.  Thanks for posting Ben
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: general_apathy (Chloe) on September 01, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
Thanks again, Ben! We really appreciate you stopping by, and you're welcome here anytime.

(that sorta rhymed, cool!)

P.S. Nick Hornby is awesome...I think I've read just about everything that man has put out. That's pretty cool about him writing lyrics for you!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: caats19 on September 01, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
thx for saying we aren't so bad, but i prefer my .org sig of you telling us to suck dick. ciao.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Kidney05 on September 01, 2008, 08:35:10 PM
anyway, where was I...

There's only one other song I feel I should explain for the moment, and tell how it came to be.

Kylie From Connecticut. 
I asked Nick Hornby, the novelist, if he would want to take a crack at the lyrics for the music to this song.  It had no title or words, just me singing la la's.  I was stuck.  I sent him an mp3 to see what he'd come up with, although I knew that was a very difficult way to write - music first puts the lyricist in a box to begin with although that's the way I've always written.  I love Nick's writing and he's game to write lyrics every once in a while.  Lucky me.  He didn't disappoint.  He wrote this great set of lyrics but it just didn't sit in the song musically without my revising them and I'm sorry, I'm not revising a syllable of that man's work - it was perfect on its own but just wasn't a match for that song - it was a syllable thing. 

I suggested that maybe the chorus should have proper consonance.  I suggested it sound something like "Kylie is Calling from Connecticut".  His lyrics were about the Elvis comeback TV show and a young lady you can see who was immortalized, who's now older.  It was really cool.  Anyway, once the dummy words Kylie from Connecticut came out of my mouth, and entire scene and lyrics came spewing forth so I finished the song myself and  I wrote a completely new other song to the lyrics about the comeback show which we I'll record when I have any time at all. 

What I visualized when saying the words "Kylie is calling from Connecticut" was an older woman who'd stuck her marriage out through thick and thin, 1950's style.  Dedication and perseverance. She has always suspected her husband had affairs but she's also always said that she just didn't want to know.  This is the way an older generation dealt and Its a viable way to deal.  But one day, probably in her mid 60's she finds a slip of paper on her husband's desk, written by his secretary that says "Kylie called from Ct.  She says you've got the number".  So her husband is out of town for the weekend and as she's in bed alone, as she often is, her imagination gets the best of her.  But she begins to realize that her imagination and her suspicions that are eating her up are because in truth she hasn't been in love with her husband for so long that she's not sure she can recall a time when she was.  In fact, as the song says, her heart belongs to a man she had an affair with years ago, who she would have spent her life with but for the fact that she had young children.  And so as she looks through the closet, her memories, things she's never told anyone, she turns out the lights and goes to sleep.  Of course that means she dies in first semester of english lit.  I won't write a sequel of her husband and Kylie in his convertible rolling in Los Vegas. 

Okay, I've typed more than anyone is going to want to read.  I type about as fast as I talk although these f*cking caps are slowing me down a bit!

Tomorrow RollingStone.com is going to announce what I'm still not allowed to until they say it first.  I'm going to bed.  And thus concludes my career as a blogman. 



you'll always be the man... it's song ideas like that which made me fall in love with music in the first place.. so brilliant.  i love it.  ben, you are my hero... post more often!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: rccody on September 01, 2008, 08:52:10 PM
i think it's neat when people get to be this articulate and expressive--er i mean, when people can constructively express stuff

it's a rare but welcome gem in the midst of "lol so random XD" that i'm somewhat used to being around

thanks much ben please post more but not so much or your head might explode (from the stuff clogging your ear)

(ノ゚◡◡゚)ノ☆
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on September 01, 2008, 09:00:01 PM
I know i slacked on the caps for a bit - a relapse.  I will work on the paragraph structure as well.  But let me tell you that I'm somebody who passed music theory and ear training with D's.  
Wow, I thought that was impossible. The Great Ben Folds proving me wrong with D's. I'll probably end doing the same, just 'cuz I said something.

In the end it's brightend my day and made me laugh, which is great 'cuz I can take my mind off the $175 ticket waiting on the counter. f*cking Cops.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on September 01, 2008, 09:00:43 PM
This is all very fascinating. Thanks for taking the time out to be a "blogman" Ben.


And I'm glad whoever-the-woman-in-Kylie-is, is not going to Vegas. She seems too classy.

Okay, I've typed more than anyone is going to want to read.  I type about as fast as I talk although these f*cking caps are slowing me down a bit!
We're mainly kidding about the caps thing. It's always been in your style... oh there's some post around here somewhere that says cause something was written with caps it couldn't be you. And more than anyone is going to want to read? I think not. Especially not true when it comes to back stories of songs. You really can't go wrong there at all.



One of these days I'm going to learn how to spell Connecticut properly. And just talking about that song makes me want to listen..... muussssstt resist...... album out in less than a month... UNLESS it's been orchestrated and we're seeing it this week. (OHPLZ!)
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 01, 2008, 09:18:55 PM
Good job mating the "shift" key (or whatever Macs have these days) with letters to start off sentences and proper nouns.

 \m/

Glad you stopped by. Again.

Too bad you don't do it more often, but all our heads would probably explode. That and you would become WAY TOO FAMILIAR with us (and probably vice versa) if we all opened up and become a big happy online family.

Thanks for taking the time, and explaining some of the dirty details. I miss the old days where everything about every song and album were laid out by those in the know. Now it's mostly guesses and old fogies that have been around since the beginning ('97 for me, internet-wise since '00) that we have to rely on. It's nice to have the input from the man.

And now I'm going to bed. Have to be up for work at 5:30, yay!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Errant Dog on September 01, 2008, 09:43:29 PM
Thanks for taking the time to give some insight on the new songs. Kylie has by far been my favorite of the new songs so far, and its cool to hear about it.

I envision myself hitting the "refresh" button on rollingstone's homepage from about 5am tomorrow 'till I pass out.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: senselessdrum on September 01, 2008, 10:24:10 PM
i love you bong folds plz sign my breasts
thanks for taking the time to write to us all.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: caliban10 on September 01, 2008, 10:50:30 PM
Ben, I know it's probably nearly impossible to do but ignore how people react to your songs. Make your music, not theirs.

And so far, you're doing just fine. (Ignore that.)
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: caliban10 on September 01, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
Oh and what's with the price of the WTN box?
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: senselessdrum on September 01, 2008, 10:54:08 PM
How would he know? And don't you know Ben never comes by and reads these things. Have you ever known Bem to do that?
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: kingrikk (Kirk) on September 01, 2008, 11:35:19 PM
Yay! Ben!

You could write for years and it not be too long. It's good to hear the back stories of the songs. And the pictures from WTN I've seen so far look lovely.

Come back again one day, even if it's only before the next album.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: kevlar35 on September 01, 2008, 11:53:07 PM
Interesting stuff.

I guess it's not really healthy for artists to mix too closely with people who'd identify themselves as 'fans'. It's best that they just going on doing the things that brought them fans in the first place.

Still, it's nice to get this kind of considered visit from time to time, it's appreciated Mr Folds!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Damian on September 02, 2008, 12:09:45 AM
Hooray!  It was a shame that it was tabloid misrepresentation that brought Ben out in the first place, but now that's over and he's just talking about the music I wish he'd do it more often.  I've never been someone who obsesses over every line of every song by every artist I like, but if ever there's someone where I'm occasionally interested to know what's behind it, it's Ben.  13 years after the event, I did a Google search the other day to find out what Jackson Cannery was about... had been wondering that for years...
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Hanny on September 02, 2008, 04:35:09 AM
Cheers for stopping by Ben! Chuffed that we got some insight into the new album, I'm forever looking at songs and wondering what they really mean and it's nice to be able to contextualise a few! So looking forward to Way To Normal!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Zoonie on September 02, 2008, 04:57:19 AM
Nice to hear from Ben (again!? A glutton for punishment, obviously)

It is nice he's been dropping by. I hope to God he barely ever makes time to read the reams of nonsense we talk about.  It's good to feel comfortable in the knowledge he's not that self obsessed.

...he is? Ohhhh! Sheeeeit!



Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: javajunkie (lynn) on September 02, 2008, 05:17:31 AM
Back to work after a long weekend to find some more good stuff from Ben. Thanks again for posting, and we promise to play nice with our blue counterparts.

Also... thanks for explaining Kylie. I had an image of an adoptee (Kylie) contacting her mother for the first time. I was way off, but I think it still works in that context, too. This just highlights how there are different ways of looking at songs, I suppose.

Can't wait for the Nick Hornby lyrics to fit into a song, and also can't wait for the "big announcement."
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: javajunkie (lynn) on September 02, 2008, 05:24:00 AM


I envision myself hitting the "refresh" button on rollingstone's homepage from about 5am tomorrow 'till I pass out.

Um, yeah... doing that now, and until my mouse gives out.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: perthgirl on September 02, 2008, 06:01:09 AM
Hooray!  It was a shame that it was tabloid misrepresentation that brought Ben out in the first place, but now that's over and he's just talking about the music I wish he'd do it more often. 

Spot on.  

Thanks for stopping by and hope you haven't cramped up from all the typing.  Working that 'Shift' key with your pinkie can be a real bastard if you're not used to it.  I love the insights you've given us in this post about the new stuff.  You've probably got a bucket-full of promotional stuff to do in the coming weeks/months. And what you've posted here has taken an amount of time and effort and probably won't result in too many additional sales (we've already pre-ordered!) but has meant a huge amount to us.

Nick Hornby is a brilliant writer (I could write a post as long as yours, Ben, about his books) and someone else who has encountered half-baked media attention on his personal life.  I'll look forward to that collaboration down the track.

This may be the end of Ben the Blogger but maybe you'll stop by every so often and give us a mid-tour update...or a mid-recording update...or a mid-lunch update...
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 02, 2008, 06:02:53 AM


I envision myself hitting the "refresh" button on rollingstone's homepage from about 5am tomorrow 'till I pass out.

Um, yeah... doing that now, and until my mouse gives out.

After it does just keep hitting F5, until that craps out too.  :P
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Ive Landed on September 02, 2008, 07:18:37 AM
thanks ben, for posting. i can't wait to hear your new stuff! i, on the other hand have not master caps. mainly because i'm too lazy.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: rccody on September 02, 2008, 07:27:30 AM
i forgot to say something that i wanted to say last night because of homework, the frown song...back near the end of highschool when i was just getting into bff (1998, yeah i was late), i was kind of inspired by underground and i wrote a wannabe style poem about pretentiously philosophical goths and how they were always unhappy and i simply called it "unhappiness"

i don't mean to say that i think ben folds came to my house and ripped me off, or that i was able to predict the future, but i was trying too hard to write stuff i thought ben would write (as with a lot of what i wrote) so when i saw the frown song the metal gear solid exclamation mark appeared above my head

in the end i was really just being mean by making fun of this ex-friend of mine who people could have thought of as a goth...vampire...thing. well that and i was just feeling really goofy

but that allowed me to instantly sort of understand where ben was coming from with all the fashionable frowning

no caps yet, still not matured ! that's an idea for a song already
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Fromasta Flex on September 02, 2008, 08:34:41 AM
I don't think I've ever been to rollingstone this much in my life......and maybe they're announcing the winner of the singyourheartout contest?!?!?!  Yeah right......but seriously when does that thing end?? haha

Ben you probably won't read this but thanks for wasting time with us!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: benjaminscottfolds on September 02, 2008, 10:12:52 AM
sorry!  RS just said it will now be tomorrow AM. 
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: javajunkie (lynn) on September 02, 2008, 10:15:31 AM
sorry!  RS just said it will now be tomorrow AM. 

They owe me a new mouse. Or wrist surgery.

See you on Sunday, after sushi :)
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on September 02, 2008, 10:17:00 AM
sorry!  RS just said it will now be tomorrow AM. 
Thanks!


Not as bad as the WB pushing back the harry potter film months and months and months. lame lame lame lame (I'm not irritated with that at all)
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: kingrikk (Kirk) on September 02, 2008, 10:35:24 AM
Not as bad as the WB pushing back the harry potter film months and months and months. lame lame lame lame (I'm not irritated with that at all)
Yeah, kind of screws up the good year we've had so far in the cinema exhibition industry. However the fact that they've had to move it to prop up next summer presumably means it'll be a slow year...
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: algonacchick on September 02, 2008, 10:37:30 AM
Wow, that was like a novel, but I read every word, and loved it. Thanks for giving us some insight on some of your new songs, Ben, and for stopping by. I guess I'm kinda like Allison, in that I'm going to wait until the cd comes out, and hear the songs then, instead of now. I love your work, and you can stop by anytime.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on September 02, 2008, 10:41:11 AM
Well. For me, I've already seen 8 of them live, and then Cologne's music video was way  too tempting to not watch.

I need SOME surprise.

And whenever an artist I really super enjoy (like a top 10er) releases a new album I tend to go through a few several weeks of not listening to anything in their entire catalog, why? I dunno. That way the voice is fresh when I stick the CD in the first time. I also listen to an album the first three times with the headphones in.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TrashSpork on September 02, 2008, 10:47:39 AM
Yes! Always a good day when one gets to read a recent post from Ben. Thanks!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: algonacchick on September 02, 2008, 10:48:50 AM
Well, then, it's a good thing I just said kinda like you, eh, Allison? I haven't watched anything yet, either. Looking forward to the new cd!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on September 02, 2008, 10:52:10 AM
Yes. It promises to be great.

But I think we're all, as a whole, terribly biased. But I have really enjoyed the energy the songs have had live. The reception amongst the crowd that was new to the songs (unlike Mel, Brooke and I) at the shows was also very high and some of my favorite moments are the people surrounding you going; "OH MY THIS SONG IS AWESOME!" when they hear Errant Dog or The Bitch Went Nutzszszs for the first time. (Those are the only two I remember people yelling their accolades during... but they would be misplaced yells during Free Coffee or Kylie.)
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: ClareQuilty on September 02, 2008, 11:26:11 AM
Humble Mr. Folds,

Your paragraph structure has improved! I'm bursting with pride, which will carry over into my upcoming Photography class and through the rest of my first day at school. You even used consonance in a sentence; outside of a poetry lecture and on the internet. Consider my smartassery (iz dat a werd?) matched. Will you be my English Professor, oh brainy one?

So I wasn't crazy in thinking that the album cover was a bit foppish! It's as English as Earl Grey Tea and Doctor Who. You have the tea cup. All that's missing is a blue police box that travels through time and space.

From the sounds of it, the album is more personal than I expected.  I'm especially excited to listen to the studio cut of Kylie, too. I'm pretty sure it's going to blow my twisted, little mind, you tease.

Have fun on the tour! If you plan on making a stop in Toronto again anytime soon, I'll be there. I shall miss your novellas, which you call postings.
- Clare.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: senselessdrum on September 02, 2008, 11:37:30 AM
Bon Scott Folds,


I want to bathe with you.

Regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: DrAlexHaleIII on September 02, 2008, 12:22:49 PM
Well. For me, I've already seen 8 of them live, and then Cologne's music video was way  too tempting to not watch.

I need SOME surprise.

And whenever an artist I really super enjoy (like a top 10er) releases a new album I tend to go through a few several weeks of not listening to anything in their entire catalog, why? I dunno. That way the voice is fresh when I stick the CD in the first time. I also listen to an album the first three times with the headphones in.

Sometimes, when I'm super psyched about hearing a new album (or even EP), I will delay listening to it till the evening so that I can guarantee that I won't be interupted during my listen by a persistent parent or a phonecall or something. I *HATE* being interupted while listening to music. I just had to pause my Calexico CD because my sister needed me to get a spider for her... NOT pleased.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 02, 2008, 01:30:33 PM
Heh, I missed Ben's second post altogether. GET THAT MAN A SNAZZY AVATAR STAT!!!!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on September 02, 2008, 01:37:52 PM
It's as English as Earl Grey Tea and Doctor Who. You have the tea cup. All that's missing is a blue police box that travels through time and space.
I love that show!

I'm getting pretty excited about the 18th news, though I haven't seen anything yet. Hopefully BF5 re-union.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: ccrider on September 02, 2008, 03:09:58 PM
So, thanks, benjaminscottfolds--that was very cool to read, and I'm going to bookmark it to read again after I've listened to the whole, real, album!  I always think it's interesting to hear what the artist has to say, and I've had several conversations with people already about the diapers line, so it's funny to read your comments on it...

Boston on 9/26 with my 14-year-old daughter--probably the only musician we are BOTH excited about seeing!!!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: ClareQuilty on September 02, 2008, 04:09:04 PM
It's as English as Earl Grey Tea and Doctor Who. You have the tea cup. All that's missing is a blue police box that travels through time and space.
I love that show!

I'm getting pretty excited about the 18th news, though I haven't seen anything yet. Hopefully BF5 re-union.

Would you like a jellybaby?
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Laura on September 02, 2008, 04:21:23 PM
I'm somebody who passed music theory and ear training with D's.  So I'm not always with the program on form.  I knew the material in my own way but I just didn't do shit like put the do re me in my sightsinging or put the time signature.  I should have.



yeah. i'm in ap music theory right now, and there are too many dumb rules about how things have to be written...although time signatures are kind of important if anyone else is going to read what you've written...
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: rccody on September 02, 2008, 06:31:42 PM
my music theory teacher in highschool always told us something about, if we want to be able to break the rules, we have to learn what the rules are first. i guess it kind of makes sense if your intention is mainly to break the rules rather than just do what comes natural
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Renata N. on September 04, 2008, 05:36:07 AM
Quote
You might have read it, but I had a back and forth with the .org that turned into an interesting dialogue.  They're not so bad.  I suggest we all light candles at midnight, hold hands and sing songs of hope and peace together
.

Yes, yes and yes....

I think I can say that we are all happy there too...
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: jpar on September 20, 2008, 06:27:16 AM
I wish I'd been at Pepper's for this moment:

Suburbs Group: "He's from the org."

Ben: "Shit's about to go DOWN!"

Silly Ben, we gave in to love. ;D

Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: melissa on September 20, 2008, 07:16:13 AM
haha, that was an amazing moment.  i just couldn't resist mentioning that he was a dorger.  a f*cking awesome dorger though.  love ya, chris!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 20, 2008, 10:26:29 AM
Still miffed I got stuck parking the car  :P
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: melissa on September 20, 2008, 12:05:28 PM
 :'(
yeah.  i felt really bad about that.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 20, 2008, 12:13:58 PM
It's okay, I've met the man before, and I have a couple other chances coming up  ;)
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on September 20, 2008, 02:08:07 PM
I wish I'd been at Pepper's for this moment:

Suburbs Group: "He's from the org."

Ben: "Shit's about to go DOWN!"

Silly Ben, we gave in to love. ;D



hahahahah. the combination of all of us at pepper's was basically fantastical.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on September 20, 2008, 04:03:54 PM
I wish I'd been at Pepper's for this moment:

Suburbs Group: "He's from the org."

Ben: "Shit's about to go DOWN!"

Silly Ben, we gave in to love. ;D



hahahahah. the combination of all of us at pepper's was basically fantastical.
Yea, that was an awesome moment for me.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 20, 2008, 04:06:13 PM
 >:(



 :'(



 :P
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on September 20, 2008, 04:07:48 PM
I'm so sorry you missed that chris.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 20, 2008, 04:13:10 PM
I'm so sorry you missed that chris.

It's okay. I made a decision. Either everyone was gonna miss Ben (the 7 of us in the car) or just me.

I made the right decision.

Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TheGreatBenfolio on September 20, 2008, 04:14:11 PM
Oh and it's ILChris' fault we were late anyways, thought he left his cell back at the hotel and we turned around before he found it.  :P
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on September 20, 2008, 04:33:21 PM
Yea he is a jerk isn't he?
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: AliceChildress on October 03, 2008, 03:47:54 AM


Love the new album Mr Ben... But I would review it as mixing pop tarts with caviar...

 ;D
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: CherryCoke on October 03, 2008, 04:29:12 PM
Man, I used to post on .org all the time. I left for a few years, then as I hear about Ben's new album plans, I go back and visit .org, see that it's become a very angry place that doesn't really talk about Ben most of the time anyway. Still craving nostalgia, I register for theSuburbs. I poke around a few days and then forget about it, and disappear. I come back here and find out Ben's apparently made posts here and on the .org. I sure pick sh*tty times to wander off.

Anyway, what's the conversation he's referring to on the .org? By the way, the new album is quite good, for whatever my opinion is worth (not much).
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on October 05, 2008, 12:17:56 AM
Oh, it's kind of long and complicated.

In chronological order:
Ben's first appearance (himself, not through Jared) here: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/news/Runaway_vs_Normal_Guy_Ben_Gives_Up_All_the_Answers/
Number 2: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/news/Return_of_Ben_with_Caps_and_Vague_Information_Ovation_TV_things_too/
The .org post: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/news/I_m_Getting_A_Work_Out_Updating_This_Thing/


and you're in the last thread Ben started.


But, he's been back since: Check all 6 posts here: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/Board/index.php?action=profile;u=2267;sa=showPosts
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on October 05, 2008, 12:20:03 AM
What's Jared's post name, he does post here doesn't he? I've heard he does.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on October 05, 2008, 12:22:54 AM
Oh, that's right. You're that new. He's "mr. reynolds" sam's on here too as "SamsMyth"

Oh man, oh man.


hHahhahaha.

Okay. First read this and the link to my post in it:  http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/news/To_answer_a_couple_of_questions/


Then read this: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/Board/index.php?topic=4484.0

I had a good laugh with Ben about this in April this year. "Uh, sorry I thought you were pissed." "Hahahahahaha. No worries. ahhahahaha."

Mel and I even made a sign. I still have it.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on October 05, 2008, 12:26:59 AM
Yea I've seen the show where he talks about you being pissed, but I had no clue what the hell he was talking about, since I hadn't joined yet.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: Allison on October 05, 2008, 12:28:29 AM
I still think he was angry. Maybe it was about his foot, but really, he seemed angry. EVERYONE after the show was talking about how pissed Ben seemed. I just happen to be the person who said it on the internet first.


Friday night? Seemed like he was having one good hell of a time.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: You Dont Know Zach on October 05, 2008, 12:58:27 AM
He had an awesome time last night, he was rocking out with the conductor. They even posed for a picture while walking off the stage. The whole time, I was wondering where the camera policy went, right out the window is where ;D
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: CherryCoke on October 05, 2008, 01:23:43 AM
Oh, it's kind of long and complicated.

In chronological order:
Ben's first appearance (himself, not through Jared) here: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/news/Runaway_vs_Normal_Guy_Ben_Gives_Up_All_the_Answers/
Number 2: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/news/Return_of_Ben_with_Caps_and_Vague_Information_Ovation_TV_things_too/
The .org post: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/news/I_m_Getting_A_Work_Out_Updating_This_Thing/


and you're in the last thread Ben started.


But, he's been back since: Check all 6 posts here: http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/Board/index.php?action=profile;u=2267;sa=showPosts

Crazy stuff. I still feel like I missed Ben's original post on the org (it does say he posted there twice), and Ill's thread seemed to stem out of some earlier exchange.

It's still so bizarre to me how this all panned out. I understand what DrewMG said, that the org metamorphosed differently from this site. The timing of it all just caught me off guard...when I stopped posting on the org, everyone was still lovin' Ben, and there was a reasonably tight, albeit online, community. As life caught up with me, I left and didnt visit any Ben sites for years. Later, with WtN on the horizons, I returned to the org to catch up on the excitement (I was remembering all the giddy anticipation of RTS leading up to that release, and sort of wanted to re-live it). It's kinda like going back to your hometown and seeing the same people and places, but your rosey memories of it are replaced with bickering, sarcasm, jaded-ness, etc.

In fact, that's pretty much why I registered here-not because I have some burning desire to talk about Ben 24/7 (when I registered for the org originally I think I was 14, so understandably back then I probably had a lot more time and energy for that, haha!), but because I wanted to see again an online community that sort of reminded me of what the org used to be.

Holy shit, I'm cheesing out sentimental shit about web message boards...f*ck
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: momoffour on October 07, 2008, 05:19:14 AM
I too found the .org a "rough neighborhood".  I used to post on the "official site", but that became a ghost town.  This seems just right for now.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: melissa on October 07, 2008, 06:12:05 AM
well, a hearty welcome to you!
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: TrashSpork on October 07, 2008, 07:36:13 AM
Is the official site gone? In spite of the low traffic and posts I found useful information there many a times. I didn't bookmark it so I can't go back an see if its there cause I can't find a link to it on Ben's new website.
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: jpar on October 07, 2008, 07:39:34 AM
well, a hearty welcome to you!

Maybe it was the lack of coffee this morning, but when I read that, I read it as a "Hardee's welcome to you," and I scratched my head and said "double thickburger what?"
Title: Re: Last one from Ben (and its even longer)
Post by: momoffour on October 07, 2008, 05:26:12 PM
well, a hearty welcome to you!
Thanks! ;D  It seems like a nice 'burb to be in ::)